1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 You 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Hi there, this is Long John Nebel. In the brief period of time available on the two sides of this disk, I'm going to bring to you a picture of one of the most unbelievable things to occur in the 20th century. 3 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:16,000 The fantastic phenomenon of madness or soul-shaking prophecy of hope or horror. Events which shook this country and most of the rest of the world. It was, of course, the age of flying saucers. 4 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Very possibly the most amazing phenomenon in the history of modern times. Sightings of spacecraft from other planets, even other galaxies. 5 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Telepathic or mechanical contact with these occupants of these ships. Meetings in speaking with people from other planets. Trips to the other planets in flying saucers and even wilder. 6 00:01:45,000 --> 00:02:11,000 These were but a few of the amazing claims made by the men who created the hypnotic rage of flying saucers and UFOs. I don't buy any of it. But I'll say that only once. From this point forward, you make up your own mind. 7 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:38,000 According to Englishman Desmond Leslie, the first interplanetary traveler, a visitor from Venus appeared on earth 18,617,841 B.C. Others like the late scholar Morris K. Jessup dated the origin of UFOs from biblical times. 8 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:58,000 But in terms of this modern era, it all began with a flying businessman named Kenneth Arnold, who on June 24th, 1947, spotted nine disks near Mount Rainier. 9 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Now when interviewed about this sighting, he reported that they seemed to skip across the sky, like flying saucers. 10 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Following this now historical Arnold episode, came the tragic affair of the Goodman Field Air Base in Kentucky. 11 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:39,000 When Captain Thomas Mantell, United States Air Force, was sent up to investigate a crimson saucer, still climbing at 10,000 feet, the Captain radioed that it, to quote, 12 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:50,000 looks metallic and it's tremendous. I'm going on going to 20,000 feet. That was the last ever heard of Mantell. 13 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:58,000 He disappeared into the clouds and moments later, crashed to earth and was killed. 14 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:12,000 According to one Air Force release, the tragedy had occurred as a result of Captain Mantell's attempt to reach Venus. 15 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Yes, you may say that's pretty wild. And of course, there are many, many other things that have happened during this period. 16 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Then came the Gorman case, the plane of a North Dakota George Gorman who was repeatedly attacked by a light. 17 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:44,000 During this period, as other sightings piled up, the Air Force established a number of agencies to investigate these extraordinary happenings. 18 00:04:45,000 --> 00:05:02,000 But things had only begun to pop. Now opened the era of the contactees. That is people who claimed that saucers had landed and that they had made contact with the actual occupants. 19 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Among the first important of these contactees was Dan Fry. His initial experience took place on the 4th of July, back in the year of 1950, at the White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico. 20 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,000 He met a voice. This is Dan. 21 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,000 I was sent to the White Sands Proving Grounds to set up instrumentation for the testing of some very large rocket motors. 22 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:40,000 On this particular holiday, unfortunately, the air conditioning system broke down and the building became very hot. 23 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Figuring that it was cooler outside than inside, I decided to go out and take a hike in the desert air. 24 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:56,000 And I had gone about half to three quarters of a mile when I observed an object coming toward me from over the peaks of the Oregon mountain. 25 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,000 I couldn't determine much about it when I first saw it because it was after sundown and the moon hadn't come up yet. 26 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 I merely saw that there was something there that was obscuring the light from the start. 27 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:16,000 As I continued to watch it, it grew in size and eventually made a landing about 70 feet from where I was standing. 28 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:25,000 It was completely silent in operation. I observed no jet streams, no propellers, no outward evidence, the application of the force that controlled it. 29 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:34,000 This was extremely startling to me because I had been for some years engaged in the rocket and aircraft industries, 30 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,000 and I thought I was at least reasonably familiar with all types of airframe that we were producing or attempting to produce at the time. 31 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,000 And this, of course, were not the least resemblance to any one of these objects. 32 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Also, it was coming down too slowly to have been supported by even the most efficient sort of airframe, 33 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:00,000 which indicated that either it was a lighter than aircraft or whoever had built it had solved some problems, 34 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,000 of which our best physicist had only commenced to dream at that time. 35 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:13,000 I almost became convinced that it was and must be a craft from some place other than this earth. 36 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:20,000 And, understandably enough, I became considerably perturbed, not to say frightened out of my wits, 37 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 not quite out of my wits because I didn't break into a run or anything. 38 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:30,000 I remained frozen to the spot. I made all kinds of explanations, saying this was candy thinking on my part. 39 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,000 I didn't want to attract attention to myself by breaking into a run, but perhaps the truth of the matter is that I was just scared stiff. 40 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Anyway, I didn't move. I saw it come in and touched down about 70 feet from where I was standing. 41 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:51,000 I heard a very definite crackling of the brush as it settled, and this, of course, removed the last possibility that it was, in fact, a lighter than aircraft. 42 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,000 The object was an oblate spheroid, a sphere that is considerably flattened at the top and bottom. 43 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 It was about 30 feet in diameter at the widest point and about 16 feet in height. 44 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 On the ground, it had a silvery color. 45 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:17,000 After observing it for some time, not knowing whether to approach it or get out of there, I found myself approaching the step at a time very cautiously. 46 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:26,000 I walked up to within a step or two of it and then made a circle about it to see if I could see any doors, windows, or openings of any sort. 47 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,000 I didn't see any. It was a smooth, unbroken sphere or spheroid. 48 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:41,000 In other words, you were the first man to actually have a physical contact with the flying saucer as far as the White Sands Desert was concerned. 49 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Then came the high point in UFO history. 50 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:51,000 June 1952. It was a month which was swamped with amazing sightings. 51 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Climaxed by the events of June 20th. 52 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:02,000 On this occasion, seven blips appeared on the radar screen at Washington National Airport. 53 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,000 End Jets went off to identify the objects which seemed to function as aircraft. 54 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Radar observed the blips accelerate from 125 miles per hour to 500 miles per hour, turning at 90 degree angles as they went. 55 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,000 At one point, they stopped in mid-flight and reversed the course. 56 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,000 At another, they were clocked at speeds in excess of 7,200 miles per hour. 57 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:39,000 No answer, no solution, no explanation was ever provided. 58 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:52,000 On Sunday, July 7th, 1952, one Truman bathroom claimed to have been contacted by a saucer some 300 feet in diameter. 59 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 It was commanded by a gorgeous female named Aura Reigns. 60 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Then on November 20th of that year, amateur astronomer George Adamski saw a saucer land and he met the pilot of a Nuzion. 61 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 This is George's description. 62 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 A man was up there and waving to me. 63 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,000 So I come up to this bell and he had a funny suit on him, sort of a ski type suit. 64 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 And I thought it was one piece, or later I have learned two pieces. 65 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:35,000 George Adamski, I wonder if you could describe this man in detail to us. 66 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Yeah, he's a man about a 5'7 to 8 inches and I would say around 135 pounds of quite delicate hands. 67 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:58,000 The tapered fingers and beautiful, very sharp eyes looked like they looked right through you. 68 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Sometimes you couldn't hardly tell whether he was really a man or a woman. 69 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:14,000 And he long hair, waving, resting on his shoulders, kind of a half-way smile and put his hand out to shake. 70 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 And it was a pump-to-pump contact anyway, and he smiled. 71 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,000 He started telling me things and I couldn't understand. 72 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,000 And I finally got the idea, I want to know where he's from. 73 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:36,000 I pointed to the sun and I made one orbit, Colin Mercury named it, and then Venus and then Earth and pointed at myself and then the Earth. 74 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 And then I said, where are you from? 75 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:51,000 He got the idea, he finally pointed to the sun and he made one orbit, then say nothing, he made a second orbit and he pointed to himself and to that orbit. 76 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Then that meant Venus, that's how I knew he was Venetian. 77 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 But he couldn't talk to you? 78 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,000 He could talk, he was testing my ability of receiving impressions, he told me later. 79 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 So he later understand everything I said except I didn't understand. 80 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,000 When you say impressions, are you referring to telepathic communication? 81 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 That's correct, all information we received silently. 82 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,000 George, if you were a little doubtful, did he tell you that he was a man? 83 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:27,000 He did, but even then I was a little bit doubtful, but you know when nature calls, nature calls in that way. 84 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 We established that, well, we got over that. 85 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:46,000 While we were standing there talking, trying to get some understanding between us, I saw a flash of lights go out and I wonder where that come from, just like a mirror would do, if you reflected, you should know. 86 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:53,000 And I looked around fast and that's when I spotted the ship that he, that the same ship that I photographed was hiding in this little cove. 87 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 And I pointed to him and I said, that's your ship, that's what I said. 88 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:09,000 He nodded his head and we walked all of 75 to maybe 90 feet from where we stood to this place and that's where he finally told me to stay away from the ship, not get too close to it. 89 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,000 It's unpowered, somebody else in it, you could see it, you know, shadow, somebody else in it. 90 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:29,000 But talking, I forgot all about it and I somehow pushed over and this arm got caught under the flange and the magnetic force or whatever you want to call it, pulled it up suddenly and slammed it back down. 91 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,000 And even now, unaware, sometimes this arm goes limp. 92 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:45,000 He finally went on the ship, went up this hill, see, and went up on the flange, there in his door and he went in there and the way she took off, she went towards his mother's ship that I mentioned first. 93 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Later I learned how they get in and out. 94 00:13:49,000 --> 00:14:00,000 They have hatches at the bottom or they come out through the side which is certain, what appear to be port holes, certain openings there, they can come right out of the side or out of the bottom. 95 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,000 They usually return on the top like a flak top, like a carrier and then slide in down the chute. 96 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:13,000 The second of the famous flying saucer, George's, George Vantassel. 97 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 He met a man from another planet in the following year. 98 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 This visitor bore the name, Salganda. 99 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,000 This is the incident as told by George Vantassel. 100 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:37,000 George, I wonder if you can tell me about the first contact that you had. 101 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Yes, John. 102 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:46,000 This occurred on August the 24th of 1953 at approximately two o'clock in the morning. 103 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,000 The wife and I were sleeping out in the open in the desert because of the heat in August. 104 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,000 I woke up and looked around and there was a man standing there at the foot of the bed. 105 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 I said, what do you want? 106 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:10,000 He smiled at me and said, my name is Salganda and I would be pleased to show you our craft. 107 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 After I said, what do you want? 108 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,000 I never uttered another word during the whole course of this contact. 109 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Every time I thought of something to ask, he was answering me before I got the first sentence out. 110 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 The first word. 111 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:35,000 The only English I can compare to his speech was that of Ronald Coleman, who I think spoke the English language as near perfectly as anybody ever did. 112 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,000 I tried to awaken the wife and she seemed to be under some spell. 113 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,000 So I got out of bed and walked with him down to the ship a hundred yards away, 114 00:15:47,000 --> 00:16:02,000 which was a bell shaped type of craft with portholes up near the top and was roughly 36 feet in diameter at the rim and 19 feet high on the outside. 115 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Inside was circular with a cage in the middle through which a shaft went up into the dome from a roller under the deck. 116 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:32,000 And as I approached the ship with this man, I became very nauseated and this became greater as I got closer to the ship. 117 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:41,000 However, after I passed underneath the ship and stepped on this spot on the ground, which had turned a butter color almost, 118 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,000 I started to rise up into the bottom of the ship. 119 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,000 This man followed me up on a hand-eye gravity beam. 120 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:59,000 I stepped inside and as he walked along this wall, he appeared to snap his thumb. 121 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,000 And I don't know whether there's a sound that he made, but seats came out of the wall and made a curved lounge. 122 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 And he did the same thing on the top part of the shelf. 123 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:18,000 And four doors opened with the instruments mounted on the bottom of the doors and in the open position placed the instruments before the portholes. 124 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,000 And we passed behind the three men who were on the ship who never got off. 125 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 The center man apparently was controlling the ship and the other two were standing beside him. 126 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:38,000 And after we passed the crew, he again flicked his thumb up on the higher wall and the door slid open. 127 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:46,000 And in this compartment were a number of their uniforms, which appeared to be very similar. 128 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,000 The blouse appeared to be very similar to our sweatshirts of a very close-knit material. 129 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,000 And the pants of a similar material only snug around the ankles. 130 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:06,000 He explained that this compartment cleaned and deodorized their clothing by a density of light process. 131 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,000 I thought to ask him if all of their people were the same height. 132 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 And before I could get the first word out, he answered. 133 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Do you think that was a coincidence or do you think he was reading your mind? 134 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Well, I know he was reading my mind. 135 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 But you did not receive telepathically. 136 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000 No, he spoke in the finest English I've ever heard. 137 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:34,000 And then without any further information on the clothing, he walked to a hole in the deck. 138 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 He just jumped down and remarked, Stoop, so you don't hit your head. 139 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,000 In the center of this catwalk was a big rotor turning. 140 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:53,000 And on the outside of the catwalk was another rotor turning in the opposite direction. 141 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Well, I could see where these two rotors apparently were geared together underneath the catwalk 142 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,000 in order to coordinate their speeds and counteract the torque so the ship itself would spin. 143 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:13,000 And this was apparently figured out so that the mass of both were the same, and therefore there would be no torque relative to the structure. 144 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:20,000 This reminded me, I mean, I got the thought at the time of Ezekiel's wheels within wheels, 145 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:28,000 because you can describe a planetary gear system any better than saying wheels within wheels or gears within gears. 146 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,000 He stepped by me and climbed up through the hole, and I followed him. 147 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:43,000 And then he walked over to the entry port, and he just stepped in that hole like there was something there to hold him. 148 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Well, when I got to the edge of the hole and looked down at the ground about, I'd say, 14 feet down, 149 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:56,000 I figured I was going to have to light with a normal impact of a jump from that height. 150 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:04,000 So I scooted down on the edge of the hole and then just dropped in a squat position ready to take the shock when I hit the ground, 151 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,000 which would be normal to anybody who wasn't used to this anti-gravity beam. 152 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:17,000 And then he walked back to bed with me and he said they would return. 153 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,000 And he walked back to the ship and apparently got aboard. 154 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:33,000 The ship took off and about a 15 degree climb, and in a matter of about seven seconds was just faded out in the distance. 155 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000 So that was 53. 156 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 You said that Salgana said that he would be back again. 157 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Has he ever contacted you since that time? 158 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 No. 159 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:59,000 It's possible that the most completely amazing and exciting flying saucer tails are told by the charming Ophio Angelucci. 160 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Mr. Angelucci claimed that his original sighting was even before the Kenneth Arnold affair. 161 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,000 It took place back in 1946. 162 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:20,000 But his first contact didn't happen until 1952. 163 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:33,000 However, as unbelievable as all that was, nothing compares for pure wildness with this story of Ophio Angelucci. 164 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,000 I entered the door and at the table nearest the door was a very, very handsome man. 165 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000 And as I approached he says, greetings Ophio. 166 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 I said, you have a third glass here. Is someone with you? 167 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000 He looked at the glass and he was surprised. 168 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 He said, I don't know how that happened. I only ordered two glasses. 169 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000 He asked me to order. 170 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Then he asked me if I wanted a bottle of beer. 171 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000 I said, no, not tonight. 172 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000 So he says, good. 173 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000 He lifted the pitcher of water from the table and poured it into my glass. 174 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Then he went into his pocket and he said, then how about some of the best champagne in the world? 175 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,000 He took out a little pellet and dropped it in my glass and it started to fizzle like his own. 176 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 He told me to call him nothing but Adam. 177 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Two months ago he discovered he had nine months to live. 178 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000 He had cancer and was incurable. 179 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Anyhow he says, eat up. Let's dine and just get acquainted for the time being. 180 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:34,000 I noticed that his glass was filling itself with water, but no one had poured it in there. 181 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,000 So we went off for a while and as the dessert approached I heard music coming from the glass. 182 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000 There's subdued music. 183 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000 He said, wait a minute. 184 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 On this pitcher here, the water, I was up to this black spot. 185 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Now it's down here. 186 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,000 He said, but the pellet, he went in his pocket and he says, wait, I'm supposed to have four. 187 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000 He took out the pellet and only three. 188 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:05,000 He said, what they were doing was sublimating the water or evaporating it from the pitcher into the glass by remote control 189 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,000 and sublimated the pellet in his pocket over into the glass so that no one actually saw the process. 190 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Of course, I know now that he had had either experience with space visitors or that he himself was one. 191 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,000 And then I looked up and I noticed that he was looking now intently into the glass. 192 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:31,000 He had a little smile on his face, yet tears were screaming down his eyes landing right on the table before him. 193 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,000 I thought, God, what is it that he is going on? 194 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:44,000 I looked at the glass and now there was the figure of a girl dancing with blonde hair, a little miniature woman. 195 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Just dancing to the music and the music itself became more spirited as she danced. 196 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 I never saw such dancing before. 197 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,000 I immediately thought, well, Adam is either recalling someone or he's had an experience out of this world, literally out of this world. 198 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 When she disappeared, she never looked at me. 199 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000 She never looked at me. She always looked toward him. 200 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:10,000 But in the finale, when the music ended with a crash, she suddenly went on her knee and looked toward me. 201 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000 But she had a very grim aspect on her face, as those two will say. 202 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,000 You don't know now, but you soon will why and what Adam is experiencing now. 203 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:26,000 And with that gesture, that is, when she got down on her knee, bowed like in a curtsy, 204 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,000 and that grim look toward me, as much as it tell me you too will know what Adam is now experiencing someday, 205 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000 she completely disappeared. 206 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000 That was the end of the dance and the music ceased. 207 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:48,000 You know, that to me is the wildest and most beautiful of all the stories to arise from the flying saucer phenomenon. 208 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:56,000 But what of the down-to-earth, rational evaluation of UFOs that is unidentified flying objects? 209 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Listen to one of the most famous and respected of news commentators in the history of radio, Mr. Frank Edwards. 210 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Why do I persist in regarding these so-called saucers as realities? 211 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Well, I do this because during the twelve years or so that I have been interested in these things, 212 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 I've had reason to change my mind about them. 213 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,000 At first I thought they were some development of ours, and I'm sure there were a lot of other people in this country who thought that. 214 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,000 But as the years went by and things happened, I realized, as did many other people, 215 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,000 that these things, most of them, are nothing more than conventional objects seen under unusual circumstances 216 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000 and misconstrued by people who do not recognize them for what they are. 217 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000 But there is a small percentage of these things that simply cannot be explained away as conventional objects. 218 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,000 And the Air Force certainly doesn't regard them as conventional objects because it has upon occasion issued orders to shoot them down. 219 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,000 You don't shoot down hallucinations and you don't shoot down atmospheric disturbances. 220 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 You don't shoot down temperature inversions. 221 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 These things have to be real and solid. 222 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Now, I belong to an organization called NYCAP, the chairman of the board, is Admiral Hillencutter. 223 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Our first one was Admiral Farny, the father of our guided missile and the man who coined the term guided missile. 224 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,000 And he liked the rest of us on the board and he said so publicly in his opening statement, 225 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,000 he was convinced that these things came from somewhere in space and that they were entering our atmosphere 226 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:35,000 and had been for quite a while and that they were the work of intelligent beings and were certainly not subject to human control. 227 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,000 And Admiral Farny said this, not exactly in those words, but that's as nearly as I can remember it. 228 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 That was the gist of it. 229 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 And now the chairman of the board is Admiral Hillencutter, the former head of central intelligence. 230 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Hillencutter, it was in a position to know what was going on. 231 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000 We also have on the board Colonel Farny, who headed one of the Air Force Saucer research projects, 232 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,000 who certainly was in a position to know what was known as far as our official research programs concerned. 233 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:14,000 So many things have happened in this field that if you are close to it and have been able to get at some of the facts in it around the carefully laid censorship plans 234 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,000 and the plan of deception and confusion that has been as existed and bad reporting to, 235 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,000 you see that there is something substantial there, although we may not know what it is or where it comes from and we certainly do not control it. 236 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:35,000 In my opinion, as a newsman and in my judgment as a newsman of 36 years experience in broadcasting alone, 237 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,000 I feel that this could be one of the biggest news stories of all time. 238 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:50,000 If we can get the facts out before the public and the reality of these things and their origin, as some of us suspect the origin to be, can be confirmed. 239 00:27:50,000 --> 00:28:05,000 I agree with Dr. Herman Oberth and with Admiral Farny and others that these things are probably interplanetary and that I have no idea where they come from, 240 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:15,000 but I am confident in view of all the evidence that has pile up about them that they certainly do not originate on the earth, but where they come from and why I don't know. 241 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:29,000 These things have been photographed and they have been seen and they have been tracked by radar and the government has issued a book on how to recognize them when you see them on a radar screen, 242 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:38,000 how they performed when they came over the city of Washington in numbers on the night of July 19th and 20th, 1952 and about three nights later they were back again 243 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:47,000 and then on the night of August 13th, 1952 according to this government book which I have in my possession, there were 68 of them over Washington at one time 244 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:55,000 and the book was issued for the guidance of control tower men and other men how to recognize the things and how to know what you were seeing when you saw them. 245 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Now to those who haven't seen them, let me say that these things are fully as real as cosmic rays. 246 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,000 I've never seen one of them either, but I have seen the tracks that they've made when they were photographed. 247 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:21,000 I've also seen the pictures of these things when they have been photographed and so they are at least as real as cosmic rays and for that reason they constitute another thing that we know exists but which we certainly do not fully understand. 248 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Yet always on the other hand we have the really unbelievable claims of men like Dan Martin. 249 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000 What happened in 1955 Dan Martin? 250 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000 I guess it was midnight. 251 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000 I was driving along rather remote section of Texas. 252 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Suddenly I began to tingle. 253 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 So I pulled off to the side of the road. 254 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Just as I came to a stop, an object came up from behind me and on the opposite side of the road and it came to a stop. 255 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Pulled just ahead of me. 256 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 The back end of the thing was just about even with my radiator. 257 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Now this thing had very much the appearance and was about the size of a diesel railroad locomotive, possibly 50 feet long. 258 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,000 I could see what appeared to me to be two men through glass or windows. 259 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,000 But I walked up to within about four feet, I'd say, the door opened in the stern. 260 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 The lady stepped out on the ground. 261 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Now this lady weighed around 120 pounds, maybe. 262 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 She was wearing a mask. 263 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,000 It had glasses over the eyes. 264 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Then she hooked her thumbs under this thing and she peeled it back over her head and held it in her hand. 265 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000 She looked at me and smiled. 266 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Now I know that you're going to say, oh, she was a gorgeous beauty, but I didn't say that. 267 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 But she was a very nice looking girl. 268 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 And she said, hello there, Mr. Martin. 269 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000 She didn't say hello with thee or she didn't use any Bible terms. 270 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000 She said, hello there, Mr. Martin. 271 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,000 I said, hello, you. 272 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Then she told me that I would be contacted later and taken aboard a spaceship. 273 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,000 And she told me that they were from the planet Mercury. 274 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:32,000 I asked her why it was that she, being a lady, came out to talk to me when I could see that there were men aboard. 275 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Her reply was she was the only one aboard who could speak my language. 276 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Then I said to her, our scientists tell us that Mercury is so too close to the sun to afford or permit animal life, much less than the sun. 277 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Human life. 278 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:03,000 At this she smiled and she said, well, you see me, am I alive? 279 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Then she repeated that I would be contacted later, but she didn't say when, and that I would be taken aboard a spaceship. 280 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,000 At that the door opened exactly as it had before. 281 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000 The lady stepped back inside and it took off. 282 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000 And in a matter of a couple of two or three seconds it was out of sight. 283 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Getting back to serious saucer research, the most important independent investigating agency in the world is NICAP. 284 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,000 That is National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. 285 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:51,000 It is directed by retired major of the US Marines, Donald E. Keyhole. 286 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000 This is Major Keyhole. 287 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:07,000 I wonder if you could tell us what the organization, NICAP, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, does in other words, what are, what are the major keyhole? 288 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000 What is the interest of the organization? 289 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000 Why do people become members of it? 290 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000 And what is its purpose? 291 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:31,000 Long John, the organization was created to try to get back of all the ridicule about flying saucers, to determine the facts and to end the secrecy which our group considered dangerous. 292 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:48,000 It is composed of retired officers in all the services, airline captains, scientists, technicians, experts in various fields besides members of most of the professions and people in all 50 states and some 34 countries. 293 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:59,000 We analyze reports which are sent in to us by these members, also reports which are given us off the record by members of the military services. 294 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,000 These things are evaluated by the scientists in our advisors panel and by our Board of Governors. 295 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Major Keyhole, you said that NICAP was formed with a thought in mind to end the secrecy. 296 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Has the secrecy come to a halt? 297 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000 No. 298 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000 And what was the actual secrecy? 299 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Well, the secrecy is based on Air Force Regulation 200-2 which prohibits all Air Force personnel from even mentioning these things with quote, unauthorized persons without the, that is without permission from headquarters. 300 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:47,000 There is also a federal law, the Espinoj Act, which is invoked by the Joint Chiefs of Staff under J146 which prevents anybody from revealing a UFO report that's made under that order. 301 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:55,000 We find that in most cases people in the government or even on the airlines who have made official reports are unable to reveal these. 302 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,000 Do you believe, Major, that there are such things as flying saucers? 303 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,000 There is one type of UFO which is actually a flying saucer shape, that is the disc. 304 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Now the Air Force itself said this back in its Project Grudge report which it said the majority of things reported to them describe disc shaped objects which had a diameter about 10 times that of their thickness. 305 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,000 And they were capable of high speeds, accelerations and so forth and completely superior to anything we had. 306 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000 Well that is essentially a saucer shaped device. 307 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:37,000 But there's also the projectile shaped device which is the second one most commonly seen and that's not a saucer. 308 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,000 But most people talk about any unidentified object so I have accepted the fact that there are saucer shaped objects. 309 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 But they are unidentified at the present time. 310 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,000 They are unidentified as to the source, as to the purpose and just about everything connected with them, even their propulsion. 311 00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:00,000 We speculate about it but we do know or we're convinced that they're not from any nation on Earth. 312 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,000 Well in other words you're implying Major Kehoe that evidently they are coming here from other planets. 313 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:14,000 That's right. Well this is the conclusion of the majority of our Board of Governors and Technical Advisers. 314 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:27,000 And as a group you feel that these UFOs or flying saucers are coming here or hovering over this planet and they are coming here from other planets. 315 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000 Is that about it sir? 316 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:37,000 That's correct. They've been seen, they've been pursued by jets, they've been photographed, triangulated by radar, they've been paced over measured distances. 317 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:44,000 They have outspread every jet that's gone after them. They engage in maneuvers that are completely impossible for anything that we know. 318 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Incidentally the Air Force itself came to this conclusion long ago in a top secret estimate which they have been denying ever since it leaked out. 319 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:05,000 But it was confirmed by their former project chief, Captain Rupo, and the existence of that document has been confirmed in a very careful statement by Major Fournay who was the monitor on the project. 320 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:13,000 When he saw it, it was still top secret so he can't say what was in it. But he says it did exist and the Air Force statement that it didn't is untrue. 321 00:37:35,000 --> 00:38:04,000 And that's about it. Oh I don't mean that there's not a tremendous amount more. There are dozens of other ciders and contactees who could have told their stories but obviously space doesn't permit. 322 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:31,000 However, these were the top figures in the flying saucer UFO age. And whenever this time is remembered, these will be the men they talk about. These, and may I fondly hope, the man who originally introduced this incredible period to the American public. 323 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,000 Yours truly, Long John Neppin. 324 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:08,000 .